From: | Lionel Smith, Prof. <lionel.smith@mcgill.ca> |
To: | Martin Hogg <Martin.Hogg@ed.ac.uk> |
Andrew Tettenborn <A.M.Tettenborn@EXETER.AC.UK> | |
CC: | ODG <obligations@uwo.ca> |
Date: | 23/02/2010 16:42:52 UTC |
Subject: | Re: Conversion with a human face |
In Quebec, we have both possibilities:
DIVISION II
ACQUISITION OF VACANT PROPERTY
§ 1. - Things without an owner
934. Things without an owner are things belonging to no one, such as animals in the wild, or formerly in captivity but returned to the wild, and aquatic fauna, and things abandoned by their owner.
Movables of slight value or in a very deteriorated condition that are left in a public place, including a public road or a vehicle used for public transportation, are deemed abandoned things.
935. A movable without an owner belongs to the person who appropriates it for himself by occupation.
An abandoned movable, if no one appropriates it for himself, belongs to the municipality that collects it in its territory, or to the State.
936. An immovable without an owner belongs to the State. Any person may nevertheless acquire it by natural accession or prescription unless the State has possession of it or is declared the owner of it by a notice of the Minister of Revenue entered in the land register.
But abandonment is not applicable in the case of treasure (art. 938) nor in the case of things that are simply forgotten (arts. 939 ff). Full English text is at
http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=2&file=/CCQ/CCQ_A.html
Lionel
On 23-02-10 11:01 , "Martin Hogg" <Martin.Hogg@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
Like Bill, I find this a fascinating case (thanks for the reference,
Andrew). Similar facts must happen all the time, particularly in the
purchase of domestic property. My brother, for instance, recently
bought an old farmhouse, and was irritated on taking possession to
find one of the stables full of old junk which had been left behind by
the previous owner. His precise circumstances would not have been
helped by the decision of Mr Edelman QC, however, the farmhouse being
in Scotland. As, under Scots law, the abandonment of property
transfers ownership in it to the Crown, this puts my unhappy brother
in a rather difficult position: does he destroy the property even
though this technically constitutes destruction of Crown property (not
that I imagine the Crown would want all the junk which had been left
behind)?
I would be interested to learn of the position in other jurisdictions.
Martin Hogg
Edinburgh Law School
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